tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post6686014325552382378..comments2023-08-18T19:57:30.372+10:00Comments on humanities researcher: In which I make myself cryThis old world is a new worldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11567163294720510335noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-1654689108081629732010-04-24T11:34:55.344+10:002010-04-24T11:34:55.344+10:00When I was in year 12 at school my music teacher, ...When I was in year 12 at school my music teacher, Mr Coles, cried in class when we reached the end of Rigoletto. That's still my favourite opera. So cry away Stephanie--it means you're a good teacher as well as everything else.Meredith Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00977264379899180896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-47178291135728694182010-04-24T09:54:25.079+10:002010-04-24T09:54:25.079+10:00It is neither untrustworthy nor surprising that yo...It is neither untrustworthy nor surprising that you were moved by an Anglican prayer! And "the sheer simplicity of acknowledgement of wrong" is something that we might all take from the liturgy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-25079979188241090332010-04-22T23:18:24.169+10:002010-04-22T23:18:24.169+10:00I'm not actually sure why I distrusted my own ...I'm not actually sure why I distrusted my own emotional response, though Kerryn might come closest here. If I'm really frank, I felt embarrassed that I had let my guard down. I was really surprised by my reaction, as I had thought my interest in that prayer was simply a scholarly one. <br /><br />Jeffrey, that's a gruesome account. I went the other direction and found a calm, modern This old world is a new worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567163294720510335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-6096242431247093002010-04-22T22:43:01.479+10:002010-04-22T22:43:01.479+10:00...because for affective piety, or for courtly rom......because for affective piety, or for courtly romance, or for Mariolotry--whether before the cross or in its many antisemitic tales (see John of Garland Stella Maris for the classic collection)--pain is the proof of an emotion's sincerity. Note what proves the Prioress's (misplaced) animal love: feeding them what she should give to poor humans, yes, but on either side of that observationmedievalkarlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12440542200843836794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-8349636637517667162010-04-22T22:39:20.588+10:002010-04-22T22:39:20.588+10:00Thanks for that Jeffrey. Very moving. I'm teac...Thanks for that Jeffrey. Very moving. I'm teaching TWO Canterbury Tales courses this upcoming Fall (one under-, one grad), and if I try that twice in one day, I'm sure my face will end up swollen and unrecognizable. <br /><br /><i>I don't know about ties between courtliness and sentimentalism. It's an interesting connection, and to my knowledge hasn't been made yet.</i><br /><medievalkarlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12440542200843836794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-91794995472959511282010-04-22T21:30:26.136+10:002010-04-22T21:30:26.136+10:00I don't know about ties between courtliness an...I don't know about ties between courtliness and sentimentalism. It's an interesting connection, and to my knowledge hasn't been made yet. Miri Rubin and Anthony Bale are good at detailing how sentimentalism in the Marian materials is frequently connected to violent anti-Judaism, but I don't think either connects these materials to a courtly audience: as I recall, the supposition Jeffrey Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346504393740520542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-70568804767004970792010-04-22T20:58:34.538+10:002010-04-22T20:58:34.538+10:00As you know, I can't help with the Prioress, b...As you know, I can't help with the Prioress, but I'm intrigued by your question 'Was it too easy?' Does this mean you're arguing that an emotional response has to be struggled against, and hard-won, before it's valid?<br /><br />I would love to talk to you about this, but probably over a non-virtual drink.Kerryn Goldsworthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11270814460793882309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31107360.post-31456249546814067662010-04-22T09:12:03.842+10:002010-04-22T09:12:03.842+10:00I think not trusting your affective response is fi...I think not trusting your affective response is fine, but at the same time I think closing it off is a mistake too.<br /><br />Interesting question on the Prioress: was there a fad for Mariolotry that was recognized AS a fad? Curious to hear what people will say.<br /><br />Another question: tt's usual, isn't it, to say that the poetic form of her tale represents an earlier poetic work medievalkarlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12440542200843836794noreply@blogger.com